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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 10 2012, 12:32 AM (1,284 Views) | |
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Apr 10 2012, 12:32 AM Post #1 |
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Confusing topic for me. If MSSjin Gohan wins, then Base Gohan (Cell Games) >>>>> Base Trunks (Cell Games). If USSjin Trunks wins, he would have done a better job against Cell then Gohan did, which I'm guessing Toriyama probably wasn't intending to imply.
Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 10 2012, 12:33 AM.
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Apr 10 2012, 12:48 AM Post #2 |
 
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MSSJ gohan >>goku>>trunks at USSJ>initial perfect cell USSJ2 trunks was said by 50% cell to be stronger but to slow. filler USSj goku was supposed to be equal FPPC but due to his(cells) prodigious world shaking power up i give him 90% FPPC max. Meaning cells speed would wipe gokus face with his feet. MSSJ gohan doesnt just > USSJ trunks he >>>USSj trunks. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Apr 10 2012, 12:49 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Apr 10 2012, 01:59 AM Post #3 |
 
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I think Trunks would far surpass Gohan, but his speed would be a problem. |
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Apr 10 2012, 02:01 AM Post #4 |
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Oh yeah, I was mostly thinking power wise. In my PL list, I have USSjin Trunks >>> MSSjin Gohan by a good deal. |
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| + Pyrus | Apr 10 2012, 02:07 AM Post #5 |
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MSSjin Gohan: 390,000,000,000 SSjin Trunks: 175,000,000,000 - Grade 3: 1,190,000,000,000 Assuming this is the uber buff form, Trunks blows Gohan out of the water. He'd get stomped by SPC and SSjin 2 Gohan, but he's leaving everybody else in the dust. His speed wouldn't even be a problem here. That's insane. |
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Apr 10 2012, 02:09 AM Post #6 |
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 wuuuuut?!?!?!If he's that much stronger than MSSjin Gohan, who was slightly stronger than MSSjin Goku, why'd PC say MSSjin Goku was a good adversary? Or do you have Trunks' gains for second round in HTC as huge? |
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| + Pyrus | Apr 10 2012, 02:13 AM Post #7 |
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I have Trunks getting at least 10x stronger the second go-around. |
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Apr 10 2012, 02:20 AM Post #8 |
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Well, with 10x gravity it could be possible. Maybe it's not that illogical. USSjin should logically be multifolds above MSSjin anyway. Edited by Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs, Apr 10 2012, 02:20 AM.
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Apr 10 2012, 04:16 AM Post #9 |
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except for the fact that MSSj uses all of the power made from full power super saiyan. MSSJ is full power super saiyan, full power ssj, encompasses all of the grade forms. did u guys both forget Perfect cell actually powered up to fight gohan? he didnt do that for goku or trunks, and he fought trunks first. Plus trunks isnt as strong as gohan, and his USSj is under gohans MSSJ, who if also powered up to USSJ, would eat perfect cell without going SSJ2. This is annoyingly weird that you guys keep making it seem like everyones USSj is the same strength level when its evident they are ALL different. Gokus USSJ would blow trunks USSJ out of the water, and he's only reaching to the 90th percentile with perfect cell at full power. Gohan is about 85% of perfect cell at MSSJ. so trunks getting stronger than gohan is impossible at this point. trunks at USSJ fought less than 50% cell and hes stronger than gohan? are we reading the same comic? Edited by Paikuan extreme, Apr 10 2012, 04:18 AM.
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| InterWebZ | Apr 10 2012, 12:44 PM Post #10 |
 
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I have MSSJ as a higher multiplier than USSJ, so I don't think this is a concern. That and its speed restrictions are nothing short of debilitating- it is the only transformation where speed is reduced with a power increase, which severely negates what can be done with that strength. Doesn't matter how hard you punch if there's nothing for you to hit. |
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Apr 10 2012, 05:10 PM Post #11 |
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MSSj does have a multiplier thanks to being able to control the power output from minimum to maximum. All of the grade forms are encompassed in full power super saiyan mode. goku proved that by powering up to his USSj form in the filler episode. A form that was on par with full power cell. yet USSJ trunks was beat up by 50% cell at USSJ2. initial perfect cell- 50% FPPC- 100% MSSj goku 45-55% of full power cell USSJ2 trunks- 55-60% of FPPC MSSj gohan- 85% of FPPC all of these gaps in power still leave room for a peak power multiplier, but no multiplier goes PAST peak power. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Apr 10 2012, 05:11 PM.
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Apr 10 2012, 05:12 PM Post #12 |
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In terms of raw power, Trunks wins. However, due to the immense speed loss Gohan pwns |
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Apr 10 2012, 05:15 PM Post #13 |
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how? gohan has both raw power AND speed. whats with all these baseless statements? none of you have provided any proof as to why this is. gohan was stronger than ALL of them, USSJ2 trunks was barely even with goku. no, gohan had all the raw power here. trunks lost to initial 50% cell, not full power cell. |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Apr 10 2012, 05:21 PM Post #14 |
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Cell said that in terms of raw power that Trunks was stronger. I don't recall him telling Goku or Gohan that their raw power was greater than his. Then again, Cell never powered up against Trunks... I don't know. This USSJ vs MSSJ issue could've been easily avoided if Cell powered up and started to overpower Trunks |
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Apr 10 2012, 05:34 PM Post #15 |
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this isnt an issue, he said USSJ2 trunks was stronger than him but too slow to fight, this was 50% cell, not full power cell. cell only powered up against gohan, no one else. gohan wasnt there to watch trunks fight, in the anime trunks did good, in the manga he was made fun of. gohan watched his dad fight and thought he was holding back, but goku was going all out and cell was at half strength. cell DID say trunks was stronger in his initial state, but praised goku for being a better fighter at equal powers. gohan he simply was intimidated by, when gohan proved a challenge strength wise, cell powered up twice, once to full strength and the other to full speed. it was at full speed he got the advantage over gohan. hate to break peoples bubbles but USSj is a form, and due to this restriction it also means that no one is the same level of strength. OFG is right about his power gains though. The second trip took him way over vegeta as far as we could tell. But his final form was made even with gokus MSSj for mfor conserved energy, energy he used as a multiplier for power. when goku blasted cell with the chou kame blast, he raised his power as far as it would go. it "killed" cell but didnt keep him "dead" as he regenerated. thats because even at peak power goku wasnt as strong as cell. trunks WAS at peak power when he fought cell as a USSJ. i think my numbers are right. |
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